[twodogs]

It's possible he's correct and it's impossible for anyone here to say differently. All I would say is that these are very reliable boxes. How well do you trust your mechanic to an expensive repair? Difficult I know

 

[IvorETower]

Suggest you find an automatic gearbox specialist. It may be something as simple as the gearbox oil needing changing or topping up

 

[Pinoy-ako]

Hi,
Just want to share this, we're also having a problem with this INFAMOUS CHECK AUTO GEARBOX, the Renault Service here (I'm here in Austria ),informed us that, they re-configure the system, so hopefully everything will be okay, but they're recommending to change the "electronics that control the gear box",Im not sure with the exact term and it would cost around € 1,800 and if still the problem persist, the last resort would be to replace something "mechanical in the gears or clutch ", and it would cost € 1000 . Is this a reasonable price thanks

 

[dick riculous]

It's about right for renault, you may have to look around for a used one to save some money
as Ivor said "Suggest you find an automatic gearbox specialist"

 

[Pinoy-ako]

Suggest you find an automatic gearbox specialist. It may be something as simple as the gearbox oil needing changing or topping up

Hi IvorETower,
Is there a way for us to check the gearbox oil, I've read somewhere that some gearbox oil is sealed, and there's no need to top-up, and some of course we need to top it up.

 

[ggboy]

Hi,told by the top Technion at my Reno,garage,gearbox is sealed & requires no maintenance or oil changes.

 

[Pinoy-ako]

just an update , got the unit back, this are the recommended parts to be replaced "305730606R" , "319359385R","319351549R"

 

[dick riculous]

About £600 for all three parts only, solenoid and two sensors

 

[Pinoy-ako]

About £600 for all three parts only, solinoid and two sensors

is € 1800 reasonable for all the parts labor ...etc

 

[dick riculous]

That's about £1540 uk pounds all in

I priced the parts online and not at a main dealer they came out at a little over £600.

You now know what parts are required to fix the car and their part numbers

The only thing I don't know is do the parts need pairing to the car

Do you not know a reliable Austria garage you can turn to ?

They seem to be charging a lot for labour and parts as usual

Renault parts and labour are silly prices.

 

[PatWar]

is € 1800 reasonable for all the parts labor ...etc

Not in my world I'm afraid.

 

[dick riculous]

Don't forget you are close to france so parts may be easier to obtain

 

[twodogs]

Hi,
Just want to share this, we're also having a problem with this INFAMOUS CHECK AUTO GEARBOX, the Renault Service here (I'm here in Austria ),informed us that, they re-configure the system, so hopefully everything will be okay, but they're recommending to change the "electronics that control the gear box",Im not sure with the exact term and it would cost around € 1,800 and if still the problem persist, the last resort would be to replace something "mechanical in the gears or clutch ", and it would cost € 1000 . Is this a reasonable price thanks

That's a good approach, at least they are not charging you for parts until they tried the other options. It does seem expensive compared to my location. If by re-configure you mean a software update I would remain optimistic about this first. Please let us know how you get on.

The electronics that control the box is an external ecu, not difficult to replace but I have no idea what that would cost. Are your photos for the second quote? It seems so and the cost is not unreasonable. You don't say how old, and how many miles, or about the battery but bad electrical connections to the same ecu can cause similar problems.

 

[IvorETower]

I was advised by my local dealer a few years back that the gearbox oil was "lifetime" and did not need changing. However if you look around the internet (for one thing) and ask around specialists etc, this is never usually considered to be "best practice". Oil is bound to degrade over time and it it generally better to change it at intervals of several years. I do not know if the EDC 'box is easy or hard to drain and refill, but I've never heard of a gearbox that does not have a drain plug, nor a filing point somewhere on its casing. I do have vague memories in the 1970's of some autos that had to be topped up by painfully dripping the oil in through the tube used for the gearbox oil dipstick - but that was a long time ago

 

[twodogs]

I was advised by my local dealer a few years back that the gearbox oil was "lifetime" and did not need changing. However if you look around the internet (for one thing) and ask around specialists etc, this is never usually considered to be "best practice". Oil is bound to degrade over time and it it generally better to change it at intervals of several years. I do not know if the EDC 'box is easy or hard to drain and refill, but I've never heard of a gearbox that does not have a drain plug, nor a filing point somewhere on its casing. I do have vague memories in the 1970's of some autos that had to be topped up by painfully dripping the oil in through the tube used for the gearbox oil dipstick - but that was a long time ago

It does have a drain plug, a bu&&er to find, but no obvious filler. There may be one there somewhere. Seriously when manufacturers started trying to introduce extended engine oil change frequencies (I think Volvo were one of the first) their solution was a bigger sump and oil capacity. But you can never have a sealed for life engine oil system. The oil is subject to temps at which it will carbonise, plus contamination from fuel, engine gases, and maybe even coolant. Gearbox oil has none of this. Highish temps maybe, but newer grades can handle this. No contaminants (the box is sealed) except maybe metallic gear materials. These are retained in the magnetic sump. Clutch wear debris is a possible contaminant - maybe internal filters take care of this although I believe they are "dry" clutches (not sure). The idea is that manufacturers can say the gearbox is sealed for life. I agree that the oil will never "wear out" like engine oil. But I still think it is possible that a mechanical gearbox problem might contaminate it. The EDC box is way above the torque converter and pre-selection boxes of the seventies.

 

[Pinoy-ako]

You don't say how old, and how many miles, or about the battery but bad electrical connections to the same ecu can cause similar problems.

Hi,
Our Unit is 1.2 TCE Gasoline, with 46633 KM, here's the breakdown for our parts "needed" to be replaced, Battery is a year old, decided to replace it last year, because of this same problem..

DTC185664 - Error Code

Part No. - 305730606R - € 561.40 x 2 , i guess they want to change both
Part No. - 319351549R - € 114.76
Part No. - 319359385R- € 114.76
Total Cost - would be 1799.39 incl. Labor ..etc

Any recommendation for online Parts

thanks

 

[dick riculous]

Taken a quick look online and the solenoid is listed on these sites cheaper are you sure you need two 305730606r

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[anas1981j]

Hi,
Just want to share this, we're also having a problem with this INFAMOUS CHECK AUTO GEARBOX, the Renault Service here (I'm here in Austria ),informed us that, they re-configure the system, so hopefully everything will be okay, but they're recommending to change the "electronics that control the gear box",Im not sure with the exact term and it would cost around € 1,800 and if still the problem persist, the last resort would be to replace something "mechanical in the gears or clutch ", and it would cost € 1000 . Is this a reasonable price thanks

Finally, after submitting a complaint to the Consumer Protection in Saudi Arabia, the Saudi Renault Company was forced to examine the car and send a report of the malfunction, as it was found that the gear control did not respond and must be replaced.

 

[twodogs]

Finally, after submitting a complaint to the Consumer Protection in Saudi Arabia, the Saudi Renault Company was forced to examine the car and send a report of the malfunction, as it was found that the gear control did not respond and must be replaced.

Do you mean the ECU bolted to the outside of the gearbox, where all the electrical connectors are attached? At least that's not a gearbox overhaul. Do you know how they "examined" the car?

 

[anas1981j]

Do you mean the ECU bolted to the outside of the gearbox, where all the electrical connectors are attached? At least that's not a gearbox overhaul. Do you know how they "examined" the car?

I dont know how they eaxmind it but the engineering in Renault company do the exam after my compliant. And i refuse the overhaul and refus the new gear because i believe its electronic problem. Unfortunately they say dont have the part now they will ask for it from outsaid. Also the engineering told he do software but not work also after he do long trip with car.
Thanks for u towdog u was very helpful because u dont believe its overhaul