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I test drove a used diesel and a used petrol model yesterday to get a comparison.

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the slight impression that the petrol version was underpowered when going up
the same hill compared to the diesel. But equally it could have been poor gear choice on my part.

Has anyone here done a back to
back comparison of the two fuel versions when deciding which one to get?

Pricing wise, the prices are so similar when used it doesn't seem to be a factor. I've seen a petrol version more than the diesel for instance.


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Personally I can't go past the diesel. The engine is a great, willing power plane and in my opinion is the best choice for the Captur.
 

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Horses for courses. Depends on your Budget ,mileage and how long you are going to keep the car. Diesel is more expensive and will take time to get money back. Fuel more expensive and tax is cosideration too. I have petrol and very satisfied but my annual mileage is no more than 6000. So far very satisfied and no problems. Going to France in September for two weeks so will be interesting to see how she goes.
 

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What tax on the diesel? My annual road tax is £20 as it's a low emissions car!
Insurance only £30 a month and a tank of diesel lasts a month at just under £45

I don't know why people are saying it's expensive when if really isn't
 

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What tax on the diesel? My annual road tax is £20 as it's a low emissions car!
Insurance only £30 a month and a tank of diesel lasts a month at just under £45

I don't know why people are saying it's expensive when if really isn't


Diesel are Zero tax for manual ,Auto diesel will go down to £10 next year...
As regards expense its the intial cost of diesel car over petrol version ,its about £1500 more.Whenwe got our car in March our deal and the Valentine £500 off ...it worked out nearly the same...Different if its a Motability car its only about putting fuel in
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Depends upon your mileage as suggested above. Modern Diesel engines are typically fitted with a DPF (diesel particulate filter). This removes unwanted noxious particles from the exhaust and over time the filter will block up. Periodically the blockage "burns off" and the filter cleans itself. However this generally only happens when the engine is hot, ie at a high temperature. Also the particulates are worse at lower speeds so the received wisdom is that diesels are better for higher mileage drivers or people who have the opportunity to drive quickly for a period of say 20 minutes, eg on the motorway every so often. Otherwise the filter blocks, performance falls off and the filter needs to be cleaned by the dealer which can be quite expensive.
For these reasons we bought my wife a petrol Captur.
We are not anti diesel because my own car, and the last 6 I had, is diesel
 

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Have had my Diesel for 2 months and have covered 1500+ miles for my £52 fuel bill getting between 550 and 600 miles for a mix of round town short journeys and a few long runs getting 54 to 57 mpg runs great when NOT in eco mode if you need to go go go ( Only to the speed limit of course) great in Eco if round town as trims the performance off nicely


no road tax and happy
 

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If the purchase price second hand is much the same then it is a no brainier...diesel every time..! Cheaper tax, more mpg etc..
Even new, although the diesel cost more, it will be worth more at trade in time, so some of the initial outlay is offset.
Again, the diesel engine, with or without auto box is a peach...
 

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scoobie said:
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I got
the slight impression that the petrol version was underpowered when going up
the same hill compared to the diesel.
Diesels have more low-down torque (pulling power) than petrols, so if you don't want to thrash the engine all the time, you should find that the 1.5 diesel is a much better engine than the petrol especially going up hills, and if you have luggage/passengers on board.
 

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my petrol goes up hill with no problems at all

If I thought it was struggling I would take it out of Eco

Out of Eco it is as sharp as anything and attacks hills and everything with great ease
 

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IvorETower said:
Diesels have more low-down torque (pulling power) than petrols, so if you don't want to thrash the engine all the time, you should find that the 1.5 diesel is a much better engine than the petrol especially going up hills, and if you have luggage/passengers on board.
Not strictly true, the reason why modern diesels have such good torque at the low end of the rev band is because 99% of today's diesel cars are fitted with turbo chargers. The turbo charger allows more air to be pushed into the cylinder at lower revs which then allows for more fuel to be burned providing more power at lower revs. Try taking a non-turbo, naturally aspirated, diesel up a hill in comparison to a non turbo petrol and the petrol will nearly always win.

In fact the reason I didn't refer to this in my earlier post is because the petrol engine in the Captur is also turbo charged which is why it can produce 90hp from only 3 cylinders and 900cc and it too also pulls well from low revs.

And I strongly disagree with the comment that if the price is the same it has to be diesel. If your usage is, as I described, short journeys, lowish speeds then you are basically going to wreck the DPF over time. Lots of info elsewhere on the internet about this. If however you drive on motorways and A roads frequently and perhaps cover 10000 miles each year then yes, the diesel would be a better bet.
 

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Don't agree about the dpf supposed problem.. I don't believe that it is a problem at all with the 1.5 Renault/Nissan diesel engine....... Previously I had a 1.5 diesel Juke , did 18 k miles in three years, no problem at all... I was advised by Nissan agent that this 1.5 engine rarely ever had dpf problems...for some reason , the larger 2 litre diesel did have dpf problems..
 

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Are there any cars with diesel engines that aren't turbocharged these days?
 

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IvorETower said:
Are there any cars with diesel engines that aren't turbocharged these days?
Very few.....but equally there are many more turbo charged petrol cars out there than most people realise (Ford Ecoboost, Audi /VW TFSI) and hence the low end torque debate about diesels being better is not as true as it once was. The diesel does have more torque in this instance but the petrol engine is no slouch either with most of the performance coming on tap below 2000RPM

As I inferred earlier, I have been running diesels since the 90s since I tend to spend some time on motorways, longer runs etc but we have always stuck to petrol for my wife since 90% of her driving has been relatively short distance commuting. Edited by: Perusal
 

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Halin9 said:
Don't agree about the dpf supposed problem.. I don't believe that it is a problem at all with the 1.5 Renault/Nissan diesel engine....... Previously I had a 1.5 diesel Juke , did 18 k miles in three years, no problem at all... I was advised by Nissan agent that this 1.5 engine rarely ever had dpf problems...for some reason , the larger 2 litre diesel did have dpf problems.. <img src="http://www.capturownersclub.co.uk/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" align="middle" />
True, some engines are not as bad as others but here's an independent view worth reading

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/diesel-particulate-filters/
 

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Perusal.....thanks for that reference...interesting, if rather weighty..!.... I have only come across two people who had this problem, one was the 2 litre Nissan which had to be revved like mad for several minutes to burn off the particulates and one was the Peugeot ( which supposedly has the built in problem solver) and that failed completely and was an expensive repair..! So I agree that there can be problems but I believe if your car has them, you are either unlucky or kept it too long..!
 

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I also have gone for a petrol for the same reason as want to avoid any filter costs, most of my journeys are now only a few miles into town along country lanes. I`ve had diesels but was doing loads more miles but now work from home. A friend has just bought the new clio with the 1.5 diesel and loves it, but he is doing more miles than me.
 
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